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June 06, 2005

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Nice reference. So if attacking N Korea is out of the question for "grown-ups", and if diplomacy is usually driven by the availability of non-agreement alternatives, doesn't that suggest that "do nothing" is the likely US policy on North Korea, no matter how dressed up?

Well, "do nothing" has certainly been the existing strategy for some time now.

I think there are a variety of options with North Korea, all of which are bad. Perhaps the only way to get out of this with a non-nuclear NK and without a catastrophe of astonishing proportions on the peninsula is to offer the North their grand bargain, as one of my bosses has suggested:

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3721

It's certainly possible that this strategy could fail -- but we're failing as it is. I think this has the best chance of working, and is the least awful option available to us at this point.

I fail to see how any war with North Korea ends without at least one nuclear exchange, and more likely multiple ones. It would be pretty foolish on the part of the people who make our NK policy to assume the consequences of a military "solution" to be any less. Artillery fire on Seoul and rocket attacks on Japan would be bad enough as it is.

Also, how are is the US going to get into a position for 4000 sorties a day w/o telegraphing our plan of attack? At that point, the Japanese and ROK militaries would be gearing up to help, and it would be obvious to KJI what would be coming. It's pretty doubtful he'd sit back like Saddam and wait to be destroyed.

Indeed. It has been reported that the North Korean military concluded from the Irak war that Saddam had not been agressive enough and they planned their responses according to that. The idea seems to be to hit first as soon as they see clear evidence of enemy preparation for a future attack.

All that stuff has been hanging around in N. Korea for a long long time. Seoul is going to get cheesed, they know it, they're trying to keep their jobs. Basically, the decision is whether or not the US can come up with a way to write-down casualties in Seoul, PR-wise.

Also, no mention of Saddam being able to hide his scuds in the first Gulf War. (Remember? 'We're gotten all the Scuds.' Next day: 'Oh, wait, never mind. We must a have missed a few.' Next day: 'Ok, there's a few more out there.' Next day: 'Ok, well, we don't know if we can get them all, next question.' Next day: 'Next question!')

NK can do the same thing.

The really really interesting thing tho: we know where all the stuff is and have pictures and stuff. Actual installations (of some sort), not chicken coops and we know exactly what they can do to us.

ash
['Gosh. Our satellites are so efficient.']

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