...Donald Rumsfeld answers a question in an incoherent, evasive way. Read:
WALLACE: Clarke makes one other specific charge that I'd like to give you the opportunity to respond to here today.
He says that on September 12th, the day after the attack, that when all of the evidence was pointing to Al Qaeda, that you wanted to hit Iraq. Let's look at this.
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CLARKE: Rumsfeld said, "There aren't any good targets in Afghanistan, and there are lots of good targets in Iraq." And I said, "Well, there are lots of good targets in lots of places, but Iraq had nothing to do with it."
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WALLACE: Mr. Secretary, true or false?
RUMSFELD: Well, I don't know the context that he said that. I said publicly at one stage during our effort in Afghanistan, which was of course a highly successful effort to deal with the Al Qaeda there and run them out and deny them that haven, that Afghanistan had run out of targets. That is a correct quote. It's out of context here. But it is a correct quote.
If you think about it, the United States government made a decision to go into Afghanistan, not into Iraq, after 9/11. So the implication of what he's saying obviously misunderstands what actually took place.
WALLACE: But specifically, if I may, sir, what he is saying is, on the afternoon of September 12th, when all of the evidence was pointing to afghanistan, that you wanted to hit Iraq. And he compared it to attacking Mexico after the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor.
RUMSFELD: He also quotes me on September 4th, as saying some things in a meeting that I didn't attend. So it's hard for me to explain a person who would characterize a conversation in a meeting that I was not even in the room or the building when it supposedly took place.
The discussion on Iraq — and I think it's important to get this out — is as follows: When I came into office and the president came into office, the only place in the world that the Americans were being shot at was Iraq. Our aircraft and our air crews were flying northern no-fly zones and southern no-fly zone watches, monitoring U.N. resolutions. And almost on a weekly basis, our planes were being shot at.
And the president was concerned about it, I was concerned about it. And we had spent a good deal of time talking about how would we respond in the event one of our planes were shot down and the crew was killed, or what would we do if the crew were captured.
And so, there was discussion of Iraq, and properly so, in my view.
The president's instructions were: What organization, singular or plural, ought to be held accountable for this? And there was discussion of a variety of them. And the decision was made, Afghanistan and Al Qaeda. So it seems to me it's off the mark.
Umm, okay, but could you please answer the question? I think we can take this to be an admission that on 9/12, Rumsfeld was advocating going after Iraq. I've felt that the "Bush dropped the ball" claim of Clarke's charges was weaker than the "Iraq undermined the war on al Qaeda" claim, but if this is true, it may not be. Either way, it's shocking.